Monday, May 21, 2007

Gemma's Journal #11

May 21, 2007




Gemma's Journal #11



Hello again! Well finally lots of exercises for you to try out your new scoring skills. I decided to take pictures this time because I fancied getting up from my desk for a while. To be honest I haven’t yet worked out the points myself yet so I shall be doing it at the same time as you. I’ll post up my answers later this week and then Jenn and Garthe can publicly humiliate/encourage me!


















As always I love emails so please let me know any interesting Mahjong stories that you might have or anything you think might be interesting to mention!

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi,

The hands are missing essential informations :

1. Round of play (East or South)?
2. Player's position (Oya, S, W, N)?
3. Tsumo or Ron?
4. Any Dora tiles?

Anonymous said...

And also forgot:

4. In Reach situation or not?

Anonymous said...

And also forgot:

5. In Reach situation or not?

Gemma said...

Hey Walter,

I was assuming no reach or dora tiles. I was also discounting player position. The assumption also is that these are ron.

Sorry! I should have included that. The main reason that I've stripped it down like that is because with my friends here we started making up hands with the above assumptions to test ourselves first.

This week I'm planning to take some photographs of the hands we get in our game and including the position and round of play etc, to include some "real-life" situations.

I do hope you can bear with me. Scoring, I have to be honest, has been the most traumatic part of Mahjong for me and it's taken me a long time and a slowly-slowly approach. On these boards I've mostly been recreating the steps that I took to learn.

If anyone has some tips or comments on learning methods please post them up! It will be invaluable help to me as I'm just starting to try and impart the mysteries of Reach Mahjong to other people.

Anonymous said...

The first question will definitely need a round and/or a seat because of the East set and the South pair.
Would it be alright to say South Round West seat?

For the rest, it would be alright to ask for the score in the case of the dealer and in the case of the non-dealer.

Also, for those who don't know, "Ron" is a river-win, so these hands are all won off of another player's discard.

If you want more challenge, why not figure out the score for self-drawn wins AND river-wins. That makes 4 possible answers for each question!

Good Luck!

-Jenn

Anonymous said...

I'll bite.

Hand A:
+2HP Start hand points. (Formula count, as you need 3 to have a legal hand)
+1HP Red Dragon
(since Jenn has suggested South Round as West seat, no HP for East triplet)

+20BP Start base points.
+10BP Concealed hand, out on discard.
+00BP 234s
+08BP 111m
+08BP EEE
+08BP RRR
+04BP S+S Honor is 2BP, Single Wait is 2 more BP.

= 3HP 58BP (Round to 3:60)

Since we said discard win, 3:60 says 2000 points (For the math involved, 60*(2^3) = 480. Discarder pays 4x that, 1920-->2000.)

If this were a self-draw, it would be a 4HP 48BP hand (4:50), netting 3200 points.

I've counted the other two but I'll give someone else a chance to develop on them.

Unknown said...

Great explanation Kintaro!

Just a not, not all Honors get 2 Base Points (BP) for pairs. Only Value Tiles will get the 2 points. Since South is the Round Wind, it counts as a Value Tile and does score the 2 points.

The 3200 points for a Self-Draw would be split up: 800 for non-dealers and 1600 for the dealer.

Gemma said...

I think perhaps my questions haven't been too well planned out. I apologise to everyone! I promise to make you some better ones for my next entry! Sorry!

I'll wave the beginner flag so that you all forgive me!

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